alexforbreakfast Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Based off of the awesome recommendations from this forum I decided to obtain my first order of Tangiers in December: Kashmir Peach and Cherry. I followed the tips provided on the board and made sure to allow time for both to properly acclimate until they obtained a normal smell and seemed ready to go. I also ensured that it was properly packed into my small Tangiers phunnel bowl. I noticed that there was a lot of inconsistency with the tobacco. Were the clouds awesome? Yes. Taste awesome? Yes. The only problem though was that the majority of the bowls got unbearably harsh far too quickly. I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, but if anyone could help me with this it would be greatly appreciated as I don't want to give up on this brand after hearing so many good things!My setup is a Mya QT, Small Tangiers Phunnel Bowl, and Coco Naras. Thanks! Edited March 11, 2009 by alexforbreakfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 QUOTE (alexforbreakfast @ Mar 11 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Based off of the awesome recommendations from this forum I decided to obtain my first order of Tangiers in December: Kashmir Peach and Cherry. I followed the tips provided on the board and made sure to allow time for both to properly acclimate until they obtained a normal smell and seemed ready to go. I also ensured that it was properly packed into my small Tangiers phunnel bowl. I noticed that there was a lot of inconsistency with the tobacco. Were the clouds awesome? Yes. Taste awesome? Yes. The only problem though was that the majority of the bowls got unbearably harsh far too quickly. I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, but if anyone could help me with this it would be greatly appreciated as I don't want to give up on this brand after hearing so many good things!My setup is a Mya QT, Small Tangiers Phunnel Bowl, and Coco Naras. Thanks!I would guess use half the normal amount of coal that u are use to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 what did you do for heat management. coals how many etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexforbreakfast Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) QUOTE (Scoop @ Mar 11 2009, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>what did you do for heat management. coals how many etc?On everything that isn't Tangiers I usually use 3 Coco Nara coals to start off the session, and then when they die down I add two more to the remains of the worn down coals. With Tangiers I've tried 2 and 3 coals, but both have been giving somewhat similar results. Is there any chance that I may have just gotten a bad bach? And how many coals would you suggest for Tangiers with a small phunnel? Thanks. Edited March 11, 2009 by alexforbreakfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Yeah its tricky I used 2 cococ, my first time and it was too much. prob is when I used 1 there wasn't enough smoke.Very tricky.Now I use Jap coals, and its fine I use 4 pieces 2x2 stuck together riding the edges of the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyram Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Do you have a windcover? use 1 coco and a cover to get it going, then 15-20mins later take off the cover and add another coal. See if that works out for you, I have a small funnel and usually I get good clouds and flavor from 2 coco's, I use 2 coco's and a cover for the first 5 mins, I usually don't take a hit in that period, so after a few mins I remove the cover and it's good from there. I add the cover back when the coals begin to diminish. GL and keep us updated.-Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexforbreakfast Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share Posted March 11, 2009 QUOTE (Zyram @ Mar 11 2009, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do you have a windcover? use 1 coco and a cover to get it going, then 15-20mins later take off the cover and add another coal. See if that works out for you, I have a small funnel and usually I get good clouds and flavor from 2 coco's, I use 2 coco's and a cover for the first 5 mins, I usually don't take a hit in that period, so after a few mins I remove the cover and it's good from there. I add the cover back when the coals begin to diminish. GL and keep us updated.-ZI do not have a windcover, but maybe it'd be a good time to invest in one. I'll give the 2 coals with the cover waiting five minutes thing a go and see how that works after I get my next order in and let you know how it goes. Thanks to everyone that responded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illmatic Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Try wrap a piece of foil around the bowl instead if you don't have a cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 i dont like cocos for tangiers. 3 is too much, 2 is too little with my small phunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinite Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Take a steak knife and CAREFULLY saw two Cocos in half (once you get about half way, knock the knife with something heavy and it will crack in half). Use 3 halves and prepare for the best session ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 My rule of thumb for Tangiers is:1. Overpack the stuff, OG or Lucid.2. Start with 1 coal and go from there. DON'T put 3+ coals on the bowl and expect it to smoke good. Heat it up slooooowly or you'll burn the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Too much charcoal. Gets harsh too quickly= too much charcoal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 QUOTE (Scoop @ Mar 11 2009, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i dont like cocos for tangiers. 3 is too much, 2 is too little with my small phunnelI agree 100% when I switched to jap coals I fell in love with Tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I've always felt Jap coals had a chemical taste to them, but maybe I just didn't heat them up long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_shimoon Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 I'm also having the problem of the smoke being too harsh/bad flavor.I just phoned Eric, and this is what I got:(I'm using a medium phunnel btw)1) Pack the bowl quite full and tight.2) (I use 33mm 3K QL) Break 1 QL into 4 quarters. Use 3 quarters to start with.3) Only add more coal later if the flavor is coming through good.I'm gonna try his tips, see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Wow.. only 4 quarters on a medium? That's tiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 QUOTE (JDHarding @ Mar 11 2009, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've always felt Jap coals had a chemical taste to them, but maybe I just didn't heat them up long enough. If you heat them up and then let them cook on the bowl till all the silver is gone........its golden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_shimoon Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 So, I followed the instructions.I started it off with 3 quarters of 33mm 3K coals.Got it going, then added another 3 quarters. It's smoking really well now.Great. Thanks Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilded777 Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Interesting.... I forget how much I used on my first bowl; I just acclimated some guava (and my god was it hard to NOT smoke it while the aroma filled the entire HOUSE), so when I light that up tomorrow, I will see how little I can get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremyk Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 I have the best sessions using Hookah John's hookah quicklites while smoking tangiers. I start with 2 coals smoke them till they go out then add 2 more about 45min - 1hr later. This method let's me experience about a 2hr session with great flavor and no harshness now it took me awhile to get the packing method down but I really been getting it right since about thanksgiving. The best tips I ever got about tangiers is over pack it and poke your holes all the way through the tobacco using two outside rings and a hole over the middle.Edit:removed an NHT reference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) Ya might wanna edit that 'C' word out of there.. Or tell the mods you made a boo-boo. NHT reference and all.I should try some of John's quicklights next time I do Tangiers. I haven't tried them with Tang yet. Edited March 12, 2009 by JDHarding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Trying John's QLs today with my bad batch of Tang Lucid Blue Gumball. Well, not bad, just smelly. Flavor's fine.These quicklights do make the flavor better. This time I packed the shisha down into the phunnel bowl, and kept enough room between the shisha and the foil so they wouldn't touch. 2 rings of holes around the outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 12, 2009 Share Posted March 12, 2009 Whoo.. this method is gettin me a whole helluva lot more buzzed.. not as much smoke, but.. wow.. intense flavor.. and.. buzz.. *fallsover* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redjako Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 It will MURDER YOUR FACE!! As someones been saying For coco's on my medium bowl I've had success two ways:I bust em into halves, and use 3 halves to start, slowly adding a half piece if needed every TEN minutes...which is a long time to an impatient guy like myself.ORI add one coco, I really don't even smoke it (these are hanging off the edges).5 minutes I'll add anothera full TEN minutes I'll add another cocoSo after 20 minutes, its now tasty, and smokes great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHarding Posted March 13, 2009 Share Posted March 13, 2009 Shit.. this is Lucid and it MURDERED MY FACE! It's a softer buzz than OG, though. I wasn't crawling around on the floor this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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